The Legendary Hollywood Power Broker — Guy Oseary on 36 Years of Managing Madonna, 26 IPOs, and More
Key insights
Media referenced
- Purple Rain - other - Prince song whose lyrics open the episode; Guy grew up idolizing Prince and met him as a kid outside Le Parc Hotel.
- Teenage Whore - other - Hole's debut single, which Guy found as a scout for Madonna and Freddy DeMann's forming label; they lost the signing to Geffen Records.
- Perfect - other - The first Alanis Morissette song Guy heard (with co-writer Glen Ballard); he signed her within the meeting and the resulting album sold 30 million copies.
- Ray of Light - other - Madonna album Guy helped shape creatively before he was her manager, bringing in producer William Orbit and director Jonas Åkerlund.
- Music - other - Madonna album that came from a demo by producer Mirwais, passed to Madonna by Guy after director Stéphane Sednaoui introduced them.
- Frozen - other - Madonna video directed by Chris Cunningham after Guy showed her Cunningham's Aphex Twin video as an example of his work.
- Come to Daddy - other - Chris Cunningham-directed Aphex Twin video Guy showed Madonna, which led to Cunningham directing her video 'Frozen.'
- Twilight - movie - One of the films produced through the production shingle Guy built with Madonna and producer Mark Morgan.
- Percy Jackson - movie - Another film that came out of Guy's independent-producer production company.
- Confessions Tour - other - The major Madonna tour Guy took on shortly after becoming her manager, alongside co-manager Angela.
- 90210 - show - TV show that made a teenage Guy want to transfer into the world it depicted, prompting his move to Beverly Hills High School.
- Smells Like Teen Spirit - other - Nirvana song Guy compares to the jolt he felt the day ChatGPT launched.
- L.A. Times profile (1997) - article - Tim cites this early profile in which Guy reportedly said he gave himself a year to break into music before considering other paths.
- Variety profile - article - Older Variety piece quoting Guy on how Madonna's work ethic pushed him to work harder.
Companies
- Maverick Records - Record label Guy co-founded with Madonna and Freddy DeMann; signed Candlebox and Alanis Morissette.
- Idealab - Bill Gross's Pasadena incubator; Guy's first major personal investment, wiped out when the dot-com bubble burst.
- EarthLink - Sky Dayton's company; reading about Dayton's wealth is what first pulled Guy toward tech investing.
- Vita Coco - Guy's first consumer investment after the dot-com crash, made at a $35 million valuation; now a public company worth roughly $4 billion.
- A-Grade Investments - Venture fund Guy co-founded with Ashton Kutcher; early investor in Airbnb, Uber, and Spotify.
- Sound Ventures - Successor fund to A-Grade, now managing nearly $2 billion, with early positions in OpenAI and Anthropic.
- OpenAI - The company whose ChatGPT launch convinced Guy and Ashton Kutcher to build a dedicated foundational-AI investment fund.
- Anthropic - Sound Ventures invested 35 million dollars at a 5 billion dollar valuation, sourced through an introduction from Salesforce Ventures.
- Salesforce Ventures - John Somorjai and Paul Drews connected Guy to Anthropic's founders, Dario Amodei and Neerav.
- Suno - AI music-generation company Guy criticizes for reaching a multi-billion-dollar valuation without paying the artists whose music trained its models.
- Spotify - Cited as the company that solved music piracy by getting people to pay for streaming, after Napster failed to find that model.
- Napster - Guy met founders Shawn Fanning and Sean Parker early on, hoping they would find a way to pay artists before the service was shut down.
Techniques and frameworks
- Artist development - Guy's term for the patient, multi-year process of building an act's audience one show at a time, illustrated by Candlebox's years of touring before their debut album sold four million copies.
- Pattern recognition - The intuition Guy says he built over decades of signing artists, now applied to spotting founders and technology bets.
- Five-minute decision rule - Guy estimates 90 percent of his signing and investment decisions form within the first five minutes of meeting someone, based on gut feel that pattern recognition later confirms.
Summary
Guy Oseary has spent 36 years managing Madonna and has quietly become one of Hollywood's most connected talent spotters, but this episode spends most of its runtime on how he actually makes decisions rather than on the résumé itself. He traces his origin story from a teenager hustling demo tapes at Beverly Hills High School (a school he was not zoned for and attended using a borrowed address) through cold-approaching classmates for introductions to their industry parents. Two of roughly five attempts landed: Bernie Brillstein, who offered him 25,000 dollars he turned down in favor of three phone calls, and Freddy DeMann, Madonna's manager, who eventually brought Guy in as a scout for what became Maverick Records.
The through-line of the conversation is speed and gut instinct. Guy estimates that 90 percent of his decisions, whether signing a band or writing a check, form within the first five minutes of contact. He signed Alanis Morissette after hearing a single song and stopped a Muse showcase early to tell the band he already wanted to sign them. He calls this "magic," a visceral pull that has to be there before commercial logic gets applied, and says he now looks for the exact same thing in tech founders, mentally treating them as artists with a debut single to launch.
That instinct did not always pay off. Guy describes losing his entire net worth by putting everything into Bill Gross's Idealab incubator right before the dot-com crash, while passing on deals that became Research in Motion (BlackBerry) and Vitamin Water. The lesson on diversification stuck, and he rebuilt using proceeds from Madonna's touring years before making his first major consumer bet, Vita Coco, now a public company worth roughly 4 billion dollars. The same appetite for fast, high-conviction moves later drove Sound Ventures and A-Grade Investments (his fund with Ashton Kutcher) to pitch LPs a plan to deploy 80 percent of a new fund within three months of ChatGPT's launch, landing early stakes in OpenAI and, through a Salesforce Ventures introduction, Anthropic.
A recurring secondary theme is Guy's approach to relationships: frequent, deliberate, and photo-free. He hosts small dinners wherever he lands, checks in on friends constantly, and traces this habit partly to growing up mostly with his father, which made friends his de facto family. He connects this directly to Madonna's own discipline of never resting on past wins, a habit he says he has absorbed and now applies to his own decision, alongside Kutcher, to split their 20-year venture partnership into separate, individually driven paths after their AI fund's outsized returns.
The episode closes on a pointed, unresolved concern: Guy argues that AI music-generation companies like Suno have built multi-billion-dollar valuations on training data from artists who have never been compensated, comparing the moment to Napster's unresolved artist-payment problem before Spotify eventually cracked it. He wants an opt-in or opt-out system, pointing to Madonna's explicit refusal to have her catalog trained on as the standard he thinks the industry should respect.
Notable Quotes
"It always starts with the magic. I don't care if you're a tech company or whatever it is, a film, a product, a book, magic. You've got to have magic." - Guy Oseary
"Sometimes having no options and no choice is really the best option." - Guy Oseary
"90 percent of the things I do happen in the first five minutes." - Guy Oseary
"Fair use is not fair." - Guy Oseary
"Success is being excited to go to work and also being excited to go home." - Guy Oseary